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>Здравствуйте,

>>И кто из историков оспаривает выдачу знамени?
>
>Проще спросить, кто именно из историков на него вообще фапает. Не крестовый поход чай.

Да вот тут не подвергают сомнению

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anglo-Saxons-James-Campbell/dp/0140143955/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1N6RYNXJCZ68D&keywords=james+campbell+anglo+saxons&qid=1556058129&s=gateway&sprefix=james+campbell+%2Caps%2C222&sr=8-1



>Он вполне здраво напомнил, что их там вполне себе погибло, т.к. Фулфорд был выигран (напоминаю) норвежцами, а Йорк, второй после Лондона город Англии, -- взят ими.

Йорк никто не брал. В город отступил отряд эрла Эдвина.

From Heimskringla

Originally written in Old Norse, about 1225 by the poet and historian Snorri Sturluson. English translation by Samuel Laing (London, 1844).

"Earl Valthiof, (Edwin) and the people who escaped, fled up to the castle of York; and there the greatest loss of men had been. This battle took place upon the Wednesday next Mathias."

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From Symeon of Durham quoted in 'Sources of York History to D 1100 Vol 1' by D W Rollason, published by York Archeological Trust.

"Thursday 20 September 1066 The Norwegian leader broke through the English resistance at the Battle of Fulford and advanced on York, where he negotiated with the citizens"

http://www.battleoffulford.org.uk/li_sagas_compared.htm


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Англо-саксонские хроники

A:
"Then after the fight went Harold, King of Norway, and Earl Tosty into York with as many followers as they thought fit; and having procured hostages and provisions from the city, they proceeded to their ships, and proclaimed full friendship, on condition that all would go southward with them, and gain this land."

C:
"And then, after the fight, went Harald, King of Norway, and Tosty the earl, into York, with as much people as seemed meet to them. And they delivered hostages to them from the city, and also assisted them with provisions; and so they went thence to their ships, and they agreed upon a full peace, so that they should all go with him south, and this land subdue."



http://www.battleoffulford.org.uk/li_chronicles.htm



>Дальше я скипнул, извините, потому что ваши сведения не имеют никакого отношениоя к затронутому вопросу.

>Всего хорошего, Андрей.